Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/06/2002 01:43 PM Senate JUD

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                    
                   SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE                                                                                 
                          March 6, 2002                                                                                         
                            1:43 p.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
Senator Robin Taylor, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator John Cowdery                                                                                                            
Senator Gene Therriault                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Johnny Ellis                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Confirmation Hearings:                                                                                                          
Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar - William A. Granger                                                                       
Board of Judicial Conduct - Jeffrey M. Feldman                                                                                  
Violent Crimes Compensation Board - Leslie D. Bogda Wheeler                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
William Granger                                                                                                                 
13810 Jarvi Drive                                                                                                               
Anchorage, AK  99515                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Jeffrey M. Feldman                                                                                                              
Suite 400                                                                                                                       
500 L St.                                                                                                                       
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Leslie D. Bogda Wheeler                                                                                                         
P.O. Box 878885                                                                                                                 
Wasilla, AK  99687                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIRMAN  ROBIN  TAYLOR  called  the  Senate  Judiciary  Committee                                                            
meeting  to order  at 1:43  p.m.   Present  were Senator  Cowdery,                                                              
Senator Therriault  and Chairman Taylor.  He announced  there were                                                              
three confirmation hearings before the committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR said  the first confirmation hearing  would be for                                                              
the Board of  Governors for the Alaska Bar Association  (Bar).  He                                                              
asked  Mr.  William  Granger  to  give a  brief  synopsis  of  his                                                              
experience.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAM  GRANGER said  he was a  lifetime Alaskan  educated in                                                              
Alaska.  He was a banker and had  been in the banking industry for                                                              
over 30 years.   As a banker he  had a great deal of  contact with                                                              
members  of the  Alaska  Bar  mainly in  commercial  transactions,                                                              
bankruptcy  transactions  and  some  construction  litigation  and                                                              
personal injury  litigation.  He  was involved with  various firms                                                              
and private  practitioners and had  seen the gamete  of experience                                                              
and professionalism  from  one end to  the other.   He found  this                                                              
would be  a good  way to  share his vast  experience from  dealing                                                              
with many members  of the Bar in improving the quality  of the Bar                                                              
from an educational standpoint and a moral standpoint.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY said  he had heard Mr. Granger  was Vice President                                                              
of National  Bank of  Alaska (NBA).   He asked  if that  was Wells                                                              
Fargo now.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANGER  said National  Bank of Alaska  was acquired  by Wells                                                              
Fargo.  He was  no longer with them because he  retired at the end                                                              
of 2001  as a Senior  Vice President  of Wells Fargo  Bank, Alaska                                                              
and the Senior Regional Credit Officer in Alaska.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY  said he had been  in Alaska since 1950  and did a                                                              
little  bit of  flying  also.   He  had heard  Mr.  Granger was  a                                                              
private pilot.  He asked if he still flew.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANGER said he did.  He owned  a PA 14 and flew as much as he                                                              
could.  He had put ten hours on it the previous weekend.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COWDERY  asked if  he  was  a conservative,  moderate  or                                                              
liberal.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANGER said  if he had to  put a tag on it he  would probably                                                              
be a conservative.  It kind of depended on the subject.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY said  he was a conservative.  He  said Mr. Granger                                                              
had a concealed weapon permit.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRANGER believed  he  was one  of the  very  first people  in                                                              
Alaska to get a concealed weapon permit.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY said he was in the  process of getting one.  After                                                              
             th                                                                                                                 
September  11    people  had  started  thinking  about  that  more                                                              
strongly than  before.   He said  they had a  problem a  few years                                                              
earlier with pilots carrying weapons in their plane.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  asked him  for  an  idea of  his  educational                                                              
background.    He asked  if  he  had  a law  or  business  finance                                                              
background.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANGER  said he  had an  interesting educational  background.                                                              
He attended Dimond High School and  decided they were not teaching                                                              
him  fast enough.   He  dropped out  of  high school  and went  to                                                              
Gonzaga University in Spokane, Washington  for a few years.  While                                                              
there he  watched friends  graduate and not  be able to  find good                                                              
jobs so he went back to Alaska.   He had taken dozens of different                                                              
banking  classes and  was currently  enrolled in  a Pacific  Coast                                                              
Banking School  out of the  University of  Washington.  He  was in                                                              
his second year  of a three year masters program.   He said he was                                                              
a believer  in the educational process.   He had not  obtained any                                                              
formal degrees but studied law and  bankruptcies.  His high school                                                              
time was spent working in a bank or living in the law library.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT  said David Bundy  was listed in  Mr. Granger's                                                              
references.  He asked if Mr. Bundy  used to be with Guess and Rudd                                                              
PC.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANGER  said David Bundy was  with Guess and Rudd  PC and one                                                              
of the finest bankruptcy lawyers  in town.  Mr. Bundy was the past                                                              
president of the  Bar Association.  Mr. Granger said  he thought a                                                              
lot of him.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR  asked Mr. Granger he  had been on the board  for a                                                              
two or three year term.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANGER said he had been on the  board for six months or more.                                                              
He said  the position  was  a three year  term with  an option  to                                                              
renew for three years.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TAYLOR  said correct.  Mr.  Granger was appointed  in June                                                              
of 2001.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT  said he  recently had  a conversation  and had                                                              
not  had  a chance  to  track  down  information  but it  was  his                                                              
understanding that  the Bar Association  currently has  on account                                                              
in excess of a  million dollars.  He said he did  not know if that                                                              
was  just their  operating fund  or  a holding  account they  have                                                              
generated over the  years from the Bar fees.  He  asked, since Mr.                                                              
Granger had  been there for awhile,  what he could tell  him about                                                              
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANGER  said that  number was  approximately correct  and had                                                              
been substantially  derived through  Bar fees.   It was  a planned                                                              
event  to avoid  the  raising  of Bar  fees  in the  near  future.                                                              
Projections over  the next few years  showed that excess  would be                                                              
decreasing  as planned.   The Bar  Association  would not have  to                                                              
adjust Bar  fees for  extended periods  of times.   He thought  it                                                              
would  be eight  years.    There is  an  excess to  their  current                                                              
operating  needs at  the moment  but they  are going  to be  eaten                                                              
away.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT  asked why it  would be eaten away.   Generally                                                              
most boards  and commissions  set their yearly  fees so  it covers                                                              
their expected  general operating experience.   When they  have an                                                              
extraordinary  expense, some  kind of litigation,  their  fees are                                                              
adjusted for  the next couple  of years to  cover that cost.   Now                                                              
Mr. Granger  was indicating  that  for some reason  the fees  were                                                              
adjusted to  build up this  pool of money  and it would  be eroded                                                              
over time.  He  asked if they were anticipating  some expense that                                                              
is going to do  that or are they going to be  adjusting the annual                                                              
Bar fees down.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANGER  said to the best of  his knowledge there was  no plan                                                              
to adjust  the annual Bar  fees down.   He believed  the operating                                                              
expenses and  the planned  activities of  the Bar Association  are                                                              
going to  be using  up that  excess over  the next several  years.                                                              
The Bar, like  everyone, has increasing expenses from  one year to                                                              
the next.  The Bar Association will  be doing some exciting things                                                              
in the area of  providing services to its members  particularly in                                                              
the area  of research.   He  thought the  membership was  going to                                                              
receive a  great deal  more service  than it had  in the  past for                                                              
their dues.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT said  the concern  was  brought to  him by  an                                                              
attorney who  asked why they were  paying more than they  need to.                                                              
The attorney wanted  to know the reason the Bar  Association had a                                                              
million dollars, some of which was his money.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  said  most boards  and  commissions  have  to                                                              
adjust the  fees on  an annual basis.   They  have to explain  and                                                              
give a justification  to the individuals that pay  for the service                                                              
on exactly what they are getting  for that fee.  There is a little                                                              
bit of  consternation that  the Bar Association  had been  able to                                                              
amass  roughly a  million dollars  out  of people  who are  paying                                                              
their $400 or $450 annual fee.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANGER  said there was no doubt  it was a very hot  topic and                                                              
one  that was  discussed heatedly  at  every Bar  convention.   He                                                              
expected the upcoming convention to be no exception.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT  said there was some allegation  that they were                                                              
on thin ice in the way the Bar Association  is treated differently                                                              
than every other board and commission.   He said if they wanted to                                                              
fight with somebody  over legal issues they would  not necessarily                                                              
want to take on the Bar Association.   He said it was an item that                                                              
had been brought to his attention.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRANGER said it was a very sensitive  area for all the members                                                              
of the  Bar.   He did  not have a  great deal  of history  but had                                                              
looked  at the  million dollars  like Senator  Therriault. He  had                                                              
asked why  it was there,  how did it get  there, what is  the plan                                                              
for  it, why  are they  not giving  it  back and  why aren't  they                                                              
lowering the dues.  Those questions are constantly asked.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR  thanked Mr.  Granger  for volunteering  for  the                                                              
service and providing them with the candid responses.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY moved the letter  approving Mr. William Granger to                                                              
the  Board of  Governors of  the  Alaska Bar  Association be  sent                                                              
forward to  the joint  body of  the legislature.   There  being no                                                              
objection the letter will issue.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR  asked Mr.  Jeffrey  Feldman, candidate  for  the                                                              
Commission  on  Judicial  Conduct,   to  give  the  committee  his                                                              
background and some of his experience in these matters.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEFFREY FELDMAN  said he was a lawyer and  was seeking another                                                              
term on  the Commission  on Judicial Conduct.   He had  previously                                                              
served two terms  on the commission.  He had been  in Alaska since                                                              
1975 practicing law, a mixed civil  and criminal practice.  He had                                                              
previously  served  as  the  President  of  the  Bar  Association,                                                              
President of  Trial Lawyers  Association, and  had sat  on several                                                              
other related professional organizations.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELDMAN  said he  had a  committed interest  in the  system of                                                              
justice and judicial discipline in  particular.  He thought it was                                                              
an important function that the state  fulfills.  During his tenure                                                              
he had attempted to work with the  other members on the commission                                                              
who are a  combination of lawyers, non-lawyers  and judges towards                                                              
increasing  both the speed  in which  cases are resolved,  opening                                                              
the process  up to the public  to the greatest  extent permissible                                                              
and increasing  what he regarded  as the professionalism  by which                                                              
the tasks of  the commission are  addressed.  He said he  would be                                                              
happy  to  serve  another  term  if  that  was  the  will  of  the                                                              
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR thought if Senator  Donley were there he would ask                                                              
the following questions.   Senator Donley and  Chairman Taylor had                                                              
worked with Dana Fabe and the Alaska  Supreme Court to try and get                                                              
a little  more timeliness  out of  their orders and  to see  to it                                                              
that cases  don't languish after  they had been argued  before the                                                              
Supreme Court  Justices.   He said it  was his understanding  from                                                              
Justice Fabe's latest  speech that the Alaska Supreme  Court is in                                                              
the process  of developing timelines  and processes by  which they                                                              
will make a more  rapid decision.  There are cases  that have been                                                              
pending for  over two years after  final oral argument.   He asked                                                              
if that was an issue the commission had looked into.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELDMAN  said they had  not looked at  it in an  abstract way.                                                              
Like  any other  adjudicated  body  their  mission is  to  resolve                                                              
specific cases and complaints that  are filed with the commission.                                                              
If  someone files  a grievance  or complaint  with the  commission                                                              
alleging  delay on the  part of  a judge  or alternatively  if the                                                              
commission becomes  independently aware  of delay and  initiates a                                                              
complaint  on its  own motion,  which sometimes  happens, then  in                                                              
that specific instance  they will take it up and  review it but it                                                              
is  not their  jurisdiction to  undertake  a study  of the  entire                                                              
system and how the courts are behaving in a local way.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Their mission by  constitutional provision is to  enforce the Code                                                              
of Judicial Conduct.  There are instances  in which judicial delay                                                              
can rise to the level of being the  equivalent of an unethical act                                                              
by a  judge, which is  what would have  to happen before  it would                                                              
come before  their commission.  Not  every slow decision  or every                                                              
delay falls  within that realm.   They had cases where  people had                                                              
complained  of extreme  delay.   They  looked at  them and  issued                                                              
cautionary letters  and issued minor sanctions in  some instances.                                                              
They  are dependant  upon individuals  filing specific  complaints                                                              
with them and then  they act on them.  Judicial  delay is a matter                                                              
the commission  is deeply  concerned about.    During the  time he                                                              
has  been  on  the  commission  it has  been  an  area  where  his                                                              
colleagues  and he  had  focused  their own  efforts  in terms  of                                                              
making sure  their own  house was in  order, processing  their own                                                              
claims  on their  own cases  timely before  demanding that  anyone                                                              
else do the same.  They are not in  any respect insensitive to the                                                              
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELDMAN  appreciated the concern  Chairman Taylor  and Senator                                                              
Donley  had  towards  dealing  with this  issue  with  the  Alaska                                                              
Supreme Court  because anytime they  have one body  of government,                                                              
the legislative  body,  calling into question  the performance  of                                                              
another body  of government, that  being the judicial  body, there                                                              
are areas of separation of powers  that make it difficult for some                                                              
of those issues  to be ironed out very easily.  He  knew it was an                                                              
issue that  Chief Justice Fabe  is deeply concerned  and committed                                                              
to.  He thought she had in place  for sometime a committee devoted                                                              
solely to the issue of appellate  delay and trying to speed up the                                                              
timeline in the  resolution of those cases.  He assured  them if a                                                              
complaint were  to be lodged with  his commission they  would take                                                              
it seriously.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR  said the  other  matter  he  was sure  would  be                                                              
inquired  of  was  the commission's  case  filings  and  complaint                                                              
filings over the  last three years.  He asked if  they were seeing                                                              
an increase in  filings against judges for improper  conduct or is                                                              
it flat or going down.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELDMAN  did not have the  statistics with him but  had looked                                                              
at them  during a  meeting a  couple of  weeks previously  so they                                                              
were somewhat  fresh in  his mind.  He  said the total  statistics                                                              
had stayed relatively flat for several years.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
They  get a lot  of complaints  each year  many of  which are  not                                                              
within the jurisdiction  of the commission.  For  example they get                                                              
dozens  and dozens  of complaints  from  prisoners, defendants  in                                                              
criminal  cases, typically  people in  custody who  are not  happy                                                              
with the  decisions that were reached  in their cases.   Those are                                                              
obviously not complaints within their  jurisdiction.  They are not                                                              
an appellate  court and  are not there  to second guess  whether a                                                              
judge decided the  case correctly or incorrectly.   They get a lot                                                              
of  complaints that  are  not within  their  jurisdiction and  get                                                              
turned away  without a lot  of attention  by the commission.   The                                                              
number  of   complaints  they  receive   that  are   within  their                                                              
jurisdiction has stayed relatively flat.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  asked if they had  had many serious cases  in the                                                              
last three years requiring either private or public sanctions.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELDMAN said  on the average they had what he  regarded as one                                                              
or two  major cases a  year.  He  defined a  major case as  a case                                                              
resulting in  a public hearing and  a public level  of discipline.                                                              
The Alaska  Supreme Court  then ultimately  reviews it  because by                                                              
constitution  the commission  can make  recommendations on  public                                                              
discipline on  judges but  only the Alaska  Supreme Court  has the                                                              
authority to  actually impose that  discipline.  They have  one or                                                              
two major cases a year.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
They have a  half dozen or so  medium size cases, which  are cases                                                              
that do not result  in public hearings but do result  in some form                                                              
of reprimand  or censure that is  reached by stipulation  with the                                                              
judge who has  committed the violation.   They have a dozen  or so                                                              
cases a year  that result in  minor letters of caution  or private                                                              
reprimands for minor infractions.   They get some number each year                                                              
of instances  that are not  found to  be actual violations  of the                                                              
code but where there is still something  at issue that is a matter                                                              
of  concern  to the  commission.    They  engage in  some  private                                                              
counseling  with the judge  to bring  to his  or her attention  an                                                              
incident that causes some concern  though it may not constitute an                                                              
actual violation of the code.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY asked  if when he finished his  current term would                                                              
he have served eight years.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELDMAN  said he should know  whether his terms were  three or                                                              
four years  each but  he had served  two terms.   He said  it felt                                                              
like more than that to him.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COWDERY asked  if he  were  confirmed would  this be  his                                                              
third three year term or would it be his third four year term.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELDMAN  said he thought  it was three  years but he  might be                                                              
wrong.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR  thanked  Mr.  Feldman  for the  three  years  of                                                              
service he  had provided to the  state and especially  thanked him                                                              
for volunteering  to continue in that  matter.  He thought  it was                                                              
important they had continuity within  boards of this type that can                                                              
provide experience and background to new members.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT  explained a  number of  attorneys came  to him                                                              
expressing  concern  over  the  way  the  court  system  in  rural                                                              
locations  conducts   themselves.    He  asked  if   that  was  an                                                              
administrative function that the  commission would not get into or                                                              
would  the commission  be an  area that  individual attorneys  can                                                              
come and express some concern and frustration to.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELDMAN said anybody that has  a concern about the performance                                                              
of a judge can and should bring those  concerns to the commission.                                                              
Some of those  concerns fall in their jurisdiction  and some don't                                                              
so they  can't address every type  of complaint that  comes before                                                              
them.   They receive  complaints that  involve the performance  of                                                              
judges  both  in urban  and  rural  areas  that are  within  their                                                              
jurisdiction and they  do act on them.  They get  a fair number of                                                              
complaints  each year  that he  regarded  as demeanor  complaints,                                                              
complaints that  a judge  said something or  behaved in  a certain                                                              
way in a judicial proceeding that  caused someone to feel offended                                                              
or concerned.  It  may have risen to the level  of being unethical                                                              
conduct on the part of the judge  so they would take action on it.                                                              
Even if it  wasn't unethical that  is the kind of  complaint where                                                              
they  would  engage  in  some  counseling   because  they  believe                                                              
strongly that  judges should act  judiciously and  treat everybody                                                              
with respect.  If  they don't it is proper for  someone to discuss                                                              
it with the judge.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELDMAN  said they are  receptive to receiving  complaints but                                                              
there is  a judicial  code and  their mission  is to enforce  that                                                              
code.  If conduct that is the source  of a complaint falls outside                                                              
of that code they  are not going have the authority  to act on it.                                                              
They can  take informal  steps and refer  things to the  presiding                                                              
judge for action by the court system.   They do what they can when                                                              
things are  outside their  jurisdiction  but sometimes things  are                                                              
just beyond what they have the authority to deal with.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT asked if somebody  comes to them with a concern                                                              
is it kept in confidence.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELDMAN answered  yes and no.  During the  investigatory stage                                                              
the  commission's  files  are  closed  and not  available  to  the                                                              
public.   Judges are not  informed of  the names or  identities of                                                              
those who  complain against them.   If the complaint rises  to the                                                              
level  of  establishing  probable   cause  to  believe  the  judge                                                              
committed  a violation  of the Code  of Judicial  Conduct then  at                                                              
that point it is made a public matter.   The public has a right to                                                              
observe and  participate in the proceedings  and look at  the file                                                              
and the  press can report  on it.  At  that point the  person that                                                              
filed the complaint  is going to be identified.   The substance of                                                              
the complaint will be identified  as well because the judge has to                                                              
be given an opportunity to respond  to it.  That only happens once                                                              
it has been determined  it is a complaint within  the jurisdiction                                                              
within the commission and that there  is probable cause to believe                                                              
that a violation was committed.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELDMAN  thanked Chairman Taylor.   He said the  Commission on                                                              
Judicial Conduct is  a very strong commission,  especially the lay                                                              
members  that   had  been  appointed   and  the   legislature  had                                                              
confirmed.   It is a very strong  commission and is a  pleasure to                                                              
work with the members.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR said  that was  good.   He said  Mr. Feldman  had                                                              
lengthy  experience and  was speaking  from that  experience.   He                                                              
said it was good  to hear they had a strong  commission because it                                                              
breeds  confidence in  the credibility  of the  entire system  and                                                              
especially of the judicial system.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY moved the letter  approving Mr. Jeffrey Feldman to                                                              
the  Commission   on  Judicial   Conduct   be  sent  forward   for                                                              
confirmation by the full body of  the legislature.  There being no                                                              
objection the letter will issue.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TAYLOR asked  Leslie D.  Bogda Wheeler  from Wasilla  to                                                              
make an opening  comment on the Violent Crimes  Compensation Board                                                              
and her experiences there.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. LESLIE BOGDA  WHEELER said she was currently  the Chair of the                                                              
Violent Crimes  Compensation Board.  They provide  compensation to                                                              
victims of  violent crimes  in the  State of Alaska.   She  is the                                                              
public member and there is also a  doctor and an attorney position                                                              
on the board.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
She  believed she  had been  on the  board  since 1995.   She  was                                                              
appointed to complete a term and  thought she had served two three                                                              
year terms.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COWDERY  said his  information  was  that she  was  first                                                              
appointed 5/15/96 and reappointed on 12/11/98.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOGDA WHEELER  thanked Senator Cowdery and said  it goes by so                                                              
quickly she had  not paid much attention to how long  it had been.                                                              
She said the board was looking forward  to the increased limits of                                                              
assistance they  can provide in July  2002.  As a rule  they don't                                                              
provide  the  full  amount of  assistance  available  to  victims.                                                              
There  are  however  instances in  which  they  cannot  compensate                                                              
anywhere near what the loss, as a  result of their crime, had been                                                              
even after insurance  and personal means were exhausted.   She was                                                              
very please that  the legislature, in their wisdom,  chose to make                                                              
that decision.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BOGDA WHEELER  said the  Alaska  Violent Crimes  Compensation                                                              
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Board  had prepared,  prior to  September 11,   for  the event  of                                                              
terrorism  occurring within  the state.   There  was some  comfort                                                              
that they were prepared for that  type of incident.  The President                                                              
of the National Association of Crime  Victims Compensation Boards,                                                              
in  his  quarterly  news  letter to  the  body,  mentioned  "Never                                                              
Forget," the  motto that  was placed on  the television  screen on                                                              
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the three month  anniversary of September  11.   In  his statement                                                              
he  wanted everyone  to  remember  that even  in  these events  of                                                              
terrorism  where  they  have  a large  body  of  people  who  have                                                              
humongous losses the other victims  of crime still exist.  If they                                                              
don't  maintain their  services  for all  victims  of crime  those                                                              
individuals  also  become victims  of  that  greater crime.    She                                                              
thought that  was an interesting  point of  view and one  that she                                                              
will  keep with  her as  they go  into  the future  should she  be                                                              
reappointed.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  said they  appreciated the  years of service  she                                                              
had provided  to the state.   He said  he could only  imagine that                                                              
these have  to be heart  wrenching tales  and situations  that she                                                              
and board had to deal with.  He was  proud that they can provide a                                                              
group of  people like her to  screen folks and provide  some token                                                              
of assistance and  compensation to them.  He appreciated  that she                                                              
was there  and could  provide continuity  to the  board with  some                                                              
institutional knowledge on how victims  and crime had been treated                                                              
over the tenure she had been on the board.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOGDA WHEELER  thanked the Judiciary Committee  for their time                                                              
and interest  in the  Violent Crimes  Compensation Board  and sent                                                              
her  appreciation to  the legislature  for the  support they  gave                                                              
victims in the State of Alaska.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR said he worked closely  with Representative Ramona                                                              
Barnes when they tried to take Permanent  Fund Dividends away from                                                              
convicted felons  and give it  to the Violent Crimes  Compensation                                                              
Board.  Lawsuits  had happened and  they did not get to  give them                                                              
that money but he knew the money  they did get to the board really                                                              
helped.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BOGDA WHEELER  said they  receive  letters occasionally  from                                                              
victims who had  been assisted and they are very  heartwarming and                                                              
made it all worthwhile.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY  moved the  letter approving  Ms. Leslie  D. Bogda                                                              
Wheeler to the  Violent Crimes Compensation Board  be sent forward                                                              
for  confirmation by  the full  body  of the  legislature.   There                                                              
being no objection the letter will issue.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR adjourned the meeting at 2:16 p.m.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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